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Scary · Aug 23, 2010, 07:46 AM // 07:46

7 Hero's YEeeessss.. PuG's will still exists within the Ally's so
Plsss asap with the 7 hero's.

more consumables.. Always like new things

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Aug 23, 2010, 10:38 AM // 10:38

dont forget that even with discord/sabway + spiritway may not make just anything that much easier
i used sabway and i liked it, but when i changed em into discord, i survived much more
still, discord wont work just anywhere, and there always are better builds for heroes
also, my necro wanna use well spells, kinda going against a MM hero

and of course i'd like to make builds, so i cant use discord and/or spiritway all the time

my major reason for the full hero team (7 almost anywhere, except for kryta, there's 5, unless going from ToA)
and to make replacements for those who helped me mostly and left gw cuz they found it boring
tbh, i wanted to leave not long ago cuz i was bored, this is the only thing which can let me stay

to make it more fun, let us get it after some funny quest, lol, a quest to get more heroes in your team when alone

first thing i'd do is vq and dungeons on NM, just to feel how it is to do em on my own

even though heroes cant ever keep up with very good players, they still make playing the game easier, which is my dream for a long time now

its true, someone i know didnt believe there was talks about this cuz i wanted it so badly, so he thought i was joking

when i made this suggestion on another forum long ago, i got lots of negative replies, but now people mostly like it... oh well, its only better

aspi · Aug 23, 2010, 10:58 AM // 10:58

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

dont forget that even with discord/sabway + spiritway may not make just anything that much easier
i used sabway and i liked it, but when i changed em into discord, i survived much more
still, discord wont work just anywhere, and there always are better builds for heroes
also, my necro wanna use well spells, kinda going against a MM hero

I would say only for some elite areas my discord team kicked ass, in NM and HM in all campaigns. Discord + spirit way = automatic win and would make the game even more easier.
I wonder what your main characters profession is that discord didn't work for you?

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Aug 23, 2010, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by aspi

I would say only for some elite areas my discord team kicked ass, in NM and HM in all campaigns. Discord + spirit way = automatic win and would make the game even more easier.
I wonder what your main characters profession is that discord didn't work for you?

1. look under my avatar, rit
2. i'm not good at the game itself, actually bad at like half or more at NM, and 90% at HM

i had an accident which damaged my body (mostly my brains) which caused me to react very slow and i have absences (search on google, its a form of epilepsy) which means i cant concentrate at all, not just gw is a problem for me, alot more, like walking over street can be dangerous as i may walk over with absence and see or hear nothing

with 3 discord heroes i can at least do some more than almost nothing, but i cant do dungeons on NM, and most missions are a problem for me
full hero team will make it easier, and more doable, it wont be too easy for me

again: it has nothing to do with prof or builds.....
dont worry though, even in reallife not much people understand it, not all, just a bit

ps. i hope my bad english is understandable, sometimes i cant get the right words

also, discord wont work everywhere, it has a MM, and like oola's has no corpses, as far as i know
some places need other builds

aspi · Aug 23, 2010, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

1. look under my avatar, rit
2. i'm not good at the game itself, actually bad at like half or more at NM, and 90% at HM

i had an accident which damaged my body (mostly my brains) which caused me to react very slow and i have absences (search on google, its a form of epilepsy) which means i cant concentrate at all, not just gw is a problem for me, alot more, like walking over street can be dangerous as i may walk over with absence and see or hear nothing

with 3 discord heroes i can at least do some more than almost nothing, but i cant do dungeons on NM, and most missions are a problem for me
full hero team will make it easier, and more doable, it wont be too easy for me

again: it has nothing to do with prof or builds.....
dont worry though, even in reallife not much people understand it, not all, just a bit

ps. i hope my bad english is understandable, sometimes i cant get the right words

also, discord wont work everywhere, it has a MM, and like oola's has no corpses, as far as i know
some places need other builds

I understand quite good, also not English. I think we are both Dutch?

But I did not see the part, or did not understand about your slower reaction time. Sometimes that would become a problem, dungeons especially because of the traps.
I did Oola's just fine with discord, just not as much minions but they are just a bonus. And as a rit who needs minions

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Aug 23, 2010, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by aspi

I understand quite good, also not English. I think we are both Dutch?

But I did not see the part, or did not understand about your slower reaction time. Sometimes that would become a problem, dungeons especially because of the traps.
I did Oola's just fine with discord, just not as much minions but they are just a bonus. And as a rit who needs minions

i dont need minions, just good heroes, and 7 in a team would make the game possible for me without help, seeing the current community ingame, more playable

yes, both dutch it seems

JoeGrogan · Aug 23, 2010, 11:54 PM // 23:54

I'd love to see seven heroes

This is dreamland also but it'd be cool if you could make the other characters on your account useable as a hero also - be nice to be able to run around with them - obviously they'd have to have no pve skills restrictions and experience restrictions (so you can't power level/survivor them) but that'd be awesome!

Femmefatal · Aug 24, 2010, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by JoeGrogan

I'd love to see seven heroes

This is dreamland also but it'd be cool if you could make the other characters on your account useable as a hero also - be nice to be able to run around with them - obviously they'd have to have no pve skills restrictions and experience restrictions (so you can't power level/survivor them) but that'd be awesome!

I like this idea also as just give my other characters the hero programs for their class and then all my characters can play instead of that silly Koss and Dunkirk and Gwen etc. etc. This could actually revive the game, but, as I'm pretty sure Anet and NCsoft doesn't want to do that with GW2 coming as it might bite into their sales if this game became unboring.

Femmefatal · Aug 24, 2010, 03:35 AM // 03:35

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Originally Posted by End

Wow...a logical (as in the form is in the form of a logical statement) statement leading up to a An ad-homonym attack xD

The problem is the fail written all over it xD

I know quit a few of the better players in the game...and ya know what...they will tell you theres nothing a hero can do that a GOOD player can. Also note the use of the word PUG is improper when talking about upier because as far as I know. Upier works off his friends list and guild, thus, by definition not a PUG.

While yes I have played with upier before he plays quite a bit H/H. The issue is that he has seen good players, and has seen that theres nothing a good player can do that a hero can't.

Also, quite a few good players PUG just for the gits and shiggles of it when doing something that many people are doing.

Please...post something worth posting not the pointless shit that seems to flow from your mouth currently

This ^ is the reason why we need 7 heroes so we never have to interact with schitty players an elitists like IT. They don't ever know what they are talking about. They lie for the most part and will say anything to boost their own agenda while degrading others. So take your trolling self to another board you're /ignored here now.

Ninja Ninja · Aug 24, 2010, 04:47 AM // 04:47

7 hero teams would be like a dream come true but the time it'll take to implement might be too long.

NerfHerder · Aug 24, 2010, 05:18 AM // 05:18

I dont think it would take that much to implement 7 heros. Some of the UI would have to be reworked, but the base for it is already there.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Aug 24, 2010, 09:17 AM // 09:17

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Originally Posted by JoeGrogan

I'd love to see seven heroes

This is dreamland also but it'd be cool if you could make the other characters on your account useable as a hero also - be nice to be able to run around with them - obviously they'd have to have no pve skills restrictions and experience restrictions (so you can't power level/survivor them) but that'd be awesome!

dreamland? cuz of my kirby avatar?

anyways, that suggestion has been made before NF
maybe thats what heroes do, that may be why we have heroes now
making full hero teams (not just 7, as northern shiverpeaks, kryta, maguuma and desert have a max of 6, so means 5 heroes) takes some time, could be done in some days if they work on it right now (i think), but making your own chars act as heroes (which would be offensive to your own made chars) will take much longer

if they think about it now, and they start about a few months, we wont use it as gw2 is out by the time they are finished (or gw2 takes em even longer)

forget the suggestion of heroes using pve only skills, make us use more heroes of our own at a time

*never thought i'd say this*, but: giving heroes pve only skill will overpower them, let us have full hero party wont, not for normal players, or farmers, maybe for title grinders, but thats what everyone does already anyways

after alot of people got what they wanted, they quit cuz gw is boring to em, with more heroes at least alot may come back, just to try out builds for full hero teams, and maybe they come back for a long time, maybe even will buy stuff like character slots (could also be an advantage for anet), not to forget that people who play gw may buy gw2 right after release, while people who found other games they like, may say: not yet, maybe(ouch) later, or they say: no thx, they dont listen to our ideas anyway (double ouch)

maybe it sounds like an excuse, but it goes like that
and people who still are playing wont quit sooner if they like it, and alot of us like it

i even will play more gw, as i can do much more than just chatting and having a few people who can help me if not busy (which they are mostly, but who can blame em, with all those titles and such)
with heroes i can do more, not everything, but much more, and actually have a chance of completing more NM stuff, if they dont nerf too much skills

Xiaquin · Aug 24, 2010, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

*never thought i'd say this*, but: giving heroes pve only skill will overpower them

Why would you never think you'd say that? It's absolutely true and something to never allow.

I've thought of exclusive hero-only skills, or at least one unique skill per hero. For example, Gwen could have one of her skills from the BMP, only available to her, rewarded through a special quest she gives.

Lishy · Aug 24, 2010, 04:12 PM // 16:12

I don't understand this mentality of heroes being overpowered. Even if we can use 7 with PvE skills. Anything a hero can do, a player can do better. Much better. Heroes do NOT have any advantage over a real player whatsoever, besides maybe interrupting, and only interrupting. Humans are better at everything else, including minions. People just need to learn to play and manage their minions instead of crappy pugs running Flesh Golem + Mending.

I'm sorry, but the debate is actually incredibly stupid and most of the people butthurt about the fact don't even play Guild Wars anymore, bringing the whole situation and debate to an entirely whole new level of stupid.

locao · Aug 24, 2010, 04:32 PM // 16:32

i would love to have 7 heroes and i got an idea...i'll wrote a letter to santa claus cause i bet he can do it.
and dont u tell me theres no santa claus regina.

Karate Jesus · Aug 24, 2010, 05:09 PM // 17:09

I'm starting to think that I should have renamed this thread "Discussion on 7 Heroes" or something.

Seriously, though, I'm excited about John's plans ideas. I hope we get to see some of them actually manifested in the game. GW is in desperate need of some life. I hope we get an update soon.

Ka Tet · Aug 24, 2010, 05:17 PM // 17:17

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

I'm starting to think that I should have renamed this thread "Discussion on 7 Heroes" or something.

Seriously, though, I'm excited about John's plans ideas. I hope we get to see some of them actually manifested in the game. GW is in desperate need of some life. I hope we get an update soon.

The return of the petition poll? I'll sign.

locao · Aug 24, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34

ah man seriously a new cons ? a new hat ? it will not bring the the joy of play gw back.wich ruins the game now its the dificult to make a party and find ppl to play with.many times u just dont have an hour to spend on a town typing lfg need healer ned this and that so yea i think what ppl are more interested is the heroes.

NerfHerder · Aug 24, 2010, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by Xiaquin

I've thought of exclusive hero-only skills, or at least one unique skill per hero. For example, Gwen could have one of her skills from the BMP, only available to her, rewarded through a special quest she gives.

Kind of like how some of the shining blade allies in WiK got thier own specific skills? That would be fun. If done right I dont see how it could hurt, and would add some character to otherwise bland heros.

Besides 7 heros, I would be very interested in a better command system for heros. Something that could make the spread out on command, or make formations.

Karate Jesus · Aug 24, 2010, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by NerfHerder

Kind of like how some of the shining blade allies in WiK got thier own specific skills? That would be fun. If done right I dont see how it could hurt, and would add some character to otherwise bland heros.

That would be awesome....